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I was just going to put this in the comments but thought I would post it instead. Grimjack left a comment about my last post. And I wanted to comment on it.
While thinking about what I wanted to say, part of me wanted to just lamblast everyone and pretty much just quit the whole blogging thing. I didn't just say that so I could get people to try and get me to keep blogging. I don't look for sympathy. Ask my family, they know me better than anyone. I have a hard time giving people sympathy when it is a blatant try at getting sympathy. Anyways, I still don't know if I am going to keep blogging but we will just have to see.
Here were the comments from Grimjack:
"You guys know that was a movie, right? They didn't actually have sex."
I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you don't really think that I am so stupid that I know this wasn't some kind of porno and that it was just acting. So I am not even going to touch that.
"The movie didn't promote homosexuality. It simply told a story. A sad and actually boring one."
You know what, you may be right. I didn't see any commercials that said, "See this movie, two men having sex in a tent, and it is beautiful" I didn't see the movie. Let me be completely clear about my problem with the movie and Hollywood in general is. You can't just simply tell a story. Once, you hear something, whether it be a story or comment, or whatever, you are changed forever. Everything you do or hear or see changes your life in some way or another.
But what did happen, was the media and homosexual society latched onto this movie with all its might and used it for their own agenda. So I have to "cry loud, spare not" when I see people justify their immoral behavior because somebody made a movie about their choice of lifestyle.
"His character will probably kill alot of people, Does that mean "The Dark Knight" promotes murder? Does "Battlestar Galactica" promote humanities destruction by robot"
"I do find it amazing that people are so put off by that movie, and the social harm it can do, while not having a problem with the routine killings in most other movies"
Bud, I find that completely amazing myself. I agree. I will even go a step further than that. I have a problem with people that are put off by something like that movie, yet have no problem with watching TV shows like "Desperate Housewives", or soaps, or watch movies that have things like people cheating on each other, especially, ESPECIALLY, when it portrays it as being okay and the norm. I don't want to see those movies either. I don't think people should watch any of them. It's not healthy for your marriage or your personal life.
"I'm pretty sure god didn't like killing either. Probably more then gay sex."
I agree with you on this one. But, GOD, and please I respectfully ask you, and anybody else out there, when you post a comment here and use His name, don't disrespect it by not capitalizing His name. thanks. Now, where was I, oh yeah, God doesn't like killing either, and He hates it just as bad, He also hates, a proud look, a lying tongue, A heart that deviseth wicked imaginations (that is where I have a problem with hollywood), feet that are quick to mischief, a false witness, and he that soweth discord among each other. Ps 6:16-19
Anyways, there you have it. I hope I haven't offended you or anyone else. that wasn't my purpose. What was my purpose was to respond to your comment more fully than just a little snippet in the comment section. Really, it is my inability to get my thought out in small bite sized comments. It seems I need lots of room for it, kinda like my rear end. I need lots of room.
While thinking about what I wanted to say, part of me wanted to just lamblast everyone and pretty much just quit the whole blogging thing. I didn't just say that so I could get people to try and get me to keep blogging. I don't look for sympathy. Ask my family, they know me better than anyone. I have a hard time giving people sympathy when it is a blatant try at getting sympathy. Anyways, I still don't know if I am going to keep blogging but we will just have to see.
Here were the comments from Grimjack:
"You guys know that was a movie, right? They didn't actually have sex."
I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you don't really think that I am so stupid that I know this wasn't some kind of porno and that it was just acting. So I am not even going to touch that.
"The movie didn't promote homosexuality. It simply told a story. A sad and actually boring one."
You know what, you may be right. I didn't see any commercials that said, "See this movie, two men having sex in a tent, and it is beautiful" I didn't see the movie. Let me be completely clear about my problem with the movie and Hollywood in general is. You can't just simply tell a story. Once, you hear something, whether it be a story or comment, or whatever, you are changed forever. Everything you do or hear or see changes your life in some way or another.
But what did happen, was the media and homosexual society latched onto this movie with all its might and used it for their own agenda. So I have to "cry loud, spare not" when I see people justify their immoral behavior because somebody made a movie about their choice of lifestyle.
"His character will probably kill alot of people, Does that mean "The Dark Knight" promotes murder? Does "Battlestar Galactica" promote humanities destruction by robot"
"I do find it amazing that people are so put off by that movie, and the social harm it can do, while not having a problem with the routine killings in most other movies"
Bud, I find that completely amazing myself. I agree. I will even go a step further than that. I have a problem with people that are put off by something like that movie, yet have no problem with watching TV shows like "Desperate Housewives", or soaps, or watch movies that have things like people cheating on each other, especially, ESPECIALLY, when it portrays it as being okay and the norm. I don't want to see those movies either. I don't think people should watch any of them. It's not healthy for your marriage or your personal life.
"I'm pretty sure god didn't like killing either. Probably more then gay sex."
I agree with you on this one. But, GOD, and please I respectfully ask you, and anybody else out there, when you post a comment here and use His name, don't disrespect it by not capitalizing His name. thanks. Now, where was I, oh yeah, God doesn't like killing either, and He hates it just as bad, He also hates, a proud look, a lying tongue, A heart that deviseth wicked imaginations (that is where I have a problem with hollywood), feet that are quick to mischief, a false witness, and he that soweth discord among each other. Ps 6:16-19
Anyways, there you have it. I hope I haven't offended you or anyone else. that wasn't my purpose. What was my purpose was to respond to your comment more fully than just a little snippet in the comment section. Really, it is my inability to get my thought out in small bite sized comments. It seems I need lots of room for it, kinda like my rear end. I need lots of room.
posted by Ssssteve at 8:13 PM
12 Comments:
See Mom? I told you he was a preacher. Just please don't sprayit when you sayit. Hehehehehe.
Big bro, I could not agree with you more. I don't agree with GJ that people who oppose this type of film endorse movies full of killing or some other lack of self responsibility.
Well said on all points.
You don't have to apologize. It's your blog, so you have the right (nay, the duty) to write whatever you feel like writing.
Of course, with that, you should also expect people to disagree with your views. Don't take it personally, I get ripped all the time. If I worried over nonsense, I would have quit a long time ago.
"cry loud, spare not"
Perfect.
Well said cowboy. I guess you deserve a super big gulp.
Grim, be careful hanging around this blog. You might be converted.
RT, think your fellow teachers would show facing the giants to their classes???? Don
Pppppppppshhhhh...yeah right.
Maybe if I was teaching in Texas and the coach happened to be teaching in a class where it could be shown. In NJ?????? HA!
What cracks me up is how "offended" my colleagues always are by conservatism and Christians (the words come right out of their mouths). Honestly, they speak in a very vitriolic manner. I just sit and listen. It is funny (not ha ha) to be a "fly on the wall." A few people at work know I am a Christian and a conservative and they respect my desire to not argue at work and so they don't tell anyone.
It is interesting.
Ssssteve:
First off I would hope you wouldn't quit blogging over something I would say. I mean I almost always disagree with Wyatt and look at what's happening to his blog.
That being said, you are posting in a public forum, and sometimes people like myself may leave a differing view.
Maybe 'stupid' is a bit strong. I do feel that it is hard for anyone to make a valid comment about the movie if you haven't seen it. If you did see it, you would not think that it was made to glorify homosexuality. I probably don't have to worry about spoilers here, but it wasn't a 'happy' film. Did others use it for their agendas? Probably. It happens all the time, so I tend to ignore stuff like that.
One thing we will never agree on is that homosexuality is a choice. And throwing around words like 'immoral' and 'sin' don't make it so. Morality is a subjective personal opinion at best. To think that being gay and killing someone is on an even par doesn't compute with me.
As far as movies and television, I see them as just that. Most shows don't glorify cheating to me. They actually show consequences as well. In addition, they are not real. To blame an actor for a role they play doesn't make sense to me.
And RT, you should not have to hide the fact that you are Christian. The problem I have with some Christians (of which I am one) is that they are too quick to tell others what God said about things like sex, but they always seem to skip over the parts about not judging or not throwing stones.
No disrespect meant. Just a different opinion.
Grim,
It took the girl I sit next to and I three years to even discuss that we are both born-again Christians.
The public school environment is very unfriendly for Christians and conservatives (one doesn't mean the other). I was literally warned by a teacher leaving my school for an administrative position elsewhere to be very careful about who I told about my beliefs and value system, as it would garner a lot of argument and that I'd be zeroed in on by teachers with differing views.
I've heard so many false things about what Chrisitans believe and our "agendas" because I've kept my mouth shut. It would make jaws drop. People who preach tolerance being anything but.
Also, I have enough planks in my eye that I know not to go around judging others and telling them how to live. That is between them and God. However, if I choose to live how I believe the Bible tells me or feel led by God, don't tell me that is "shoving" my faith down someone's throat. I could say the same about those who do not have my faith and choose to "shove" their beliefs (religious or not) down mine.
It goes both ways.
With all of that said. You have every right to express your differing opinion. We like you, dude. :)
JC, don't count on it
USA thanks
Wyatt, I don't expect everyone to agree with me, and I certainly dont take it personal.
JT, thanks
D, thanks
RT, appreciate it
Grim, I'm not going to quit. I guess I didn't express myself very well there. Your welcome here anytime.
Hey I know just me saying its an immoral lifestyle doesn't make it so. what makes it so is what the Bible says, (which is God's word) and it says it's wrong. See leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:25-28 and then connects this behavior to other evil behaviors 28 through 32
That is what I believe, and you are welcome to comment anytime, friend.
Sssteve-well said! you're not offensive to anyone here, that i've seen...if you were, i'd just...not come back, like what i do to tv i dont want to watch, right? i heart you, sssteve!
sssteve: It never ceases to amaze me or the wife how much people are willing to concede sex over violence in life. I remember well when we were watching Titanic with some friends and their 10 year old son.
When the scene where Leonardo DiCaprio made the nude sketch of Kate Winslet came on they hurried to cover his eyes.
The scene was tasteful, relative to the plot and although she was nude it was not automatically offensive as very little was actually shown.
We both thought it was funny that this was the same person (generally a very good mom) who let the kid watch Starship Troopers (Tremendously violent) and play all matter of video games unsupervised.
It was as if a 10 year old boy would transform into some kind of deviant from seeing a women's breast yet seeing 100 murders a week would have no effect at all.
Wow! My Blog is never this deep. No wonder nobody goes to it.
All in all, I think that there is too much in the public forum and not enough "things that should be private". I don't want to see two homosexuals making out on the corner anymore than I want to see two heterosexuals making out on the corner. I don't want to see commercials for KY "lubricant", Erectile dysfunction, OBGYN issues, or even drugs for yurinary problems.
I'd prefer to see a commercial that says "If you think that your child has ADD and a smack in head or grounding him for a month hasn't worked, see your doctor.
I especially agree with your comment about shows like Desperate Housewives. Sure, it's a show, but it gradually enters society that cheating on your spouse is (1) okay and (2) something that can be fixed with an apology.
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